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-bye. what does all this good-bye stuff tell you? >> obama looks glad it's over. he looks relieved. he doesn't look victorious. romney looks happy and he looks relieved but you can tell that he feels victorious. >> how do you know that barack obama was relieved it was over? what did his face or body tell you? >> just his posture sort of drooped a little bit. he walked over more quickly not because he wanted to be assertive but because he sort of wanted it to be over with, then he goes over to michelle and again, there's this sort of -- it's very, very subtle but this kind of collapsing body language that looks a little bit defeated. romney is showing the opposite. he's doing more of the sort of -- he actually looks -- he loves everyone right now. >> gary tuchman with harvard business school professor amy cuddy. we appreciate it. >>> someone else who was watching the debate closely, alan schroeder, author of "presidential debates, 50 years of high risk tv" and journalism professor in boston, wrote about his take on last night's debate on cnn.com. he joins me now with historical perspective. i

obama doing anything like that. >> you have a closing two minutes. >> does that tell you anything when he wipes his lip? >> might have noticed throughout that he is sweating sort of on his upper lip, and he's aware of that and he wants to mop that away before his closing argument. so he wants to make sure that he looks really strong, and it's funny, i think when you do something like that, even on camera, you think people don't notice it as much as they do. >> now we're looking at the good-bye. what does all this good-bye stuff tell you? >> obama looks glad it's over. he looks relieved. he doesn't look victorious. romney looks happy and he looks relieved but you can tell that he feels victorious. >> how do you know that barack obama was relieved it was over? what did his face or body tell you? >> just his posture sort of drooped a little bit. he walked over more quickly not because he wanted to be assertive but because he sort of wanted it to be over with, then he goes over to michelle and again, there's this sort of -- it's very, very subtle but this kind of collapsing body language t

that tell you? >> that he's not feeling positive. >> what's interesting to me is barack obama keeps nodding. almost like yeah, what you're saying is right. obviously he doesn't think that. why is he nodding? what does that mean? >> i actually think what's happening is he's trying to show that he's listening so he's nodding to show that he's listening but he's actually preparing his response. >> what do the voters think of that? >> the voters see it as sheepish and weak. so i think that it doesn't come across well generally to voters, but i actually think it's not an accurate signal of what was happening in his head. >> it's estimated that by repealing -- >> you're saying during the debate there were times when mitt romney was moving very quickly, quick gestures, quick movements. what does that tell you? >> that tells me that he's feeling a little bit powerless. so he's feeling frustrated and powerless to correct what he perceives as a misunderstanding. large animals move slowly and obama and romney are large animals, they should be moving slowly. when a large animal is moving quickly like a

barack obama? you can tell me on twitter. go to @lynnberry or head to facebook.com. that is your morning dish of scrambled politics. >>> and now to wall street. the dow closinged at 13,575 after gaining 80 points yesterday. the s&p was up 10. the nasdaq add 14. taking a look at overseas trading this morning. in tokyo, the nikkei inched up 38 points. the hang seng climbed 104. the s&p is on the cusp of a five-year high. barring any surprises from september's job reports, it could hit that high today. experts predict about 115,000 jobs were added last month. weekly claims ticked slightly higher yesterday. >>> on thursday, coal companies rallied after republican mitt romney gave coal a shoutout during wednesday night's presidential debate. >>> troubling data paints a bleak picture of market confidence. according to one trade group, investors have pulled some $138 billion of investments in stocks since 2009 while funneling $1 trillion into less risky bonds. overseas today, samsung reported record quarterly profit. facebook is celebrating surpassing 1 billion users this month. meanwhile, soci

news on cbs "this morning," fallout from president obama's debate performance. howard dean tells us how the campaign can recover. an update on the investigation into the security at the libya where bassambassador chris stev was killed. that will do it for this morning. i'm terrell brown. happy friday everybody. we made it. take care. have a great day. ,,,,,, t. >> your realtime captioner: linda marie macdonald >>> good morning. it is what? >> friday! >> oh, yes. we love friday. october 5. i'm frank mallicoat. >> i'm michelle griego. time is 4:30. wait until you see what's mapped to gas prices overnight. >> this

floats your boat. on a day when many stocks were buoyed by mitt romney's victory over president obama, let me tell you how i watched. i watched the debate within the parlance of my world, the stock world. i watched it with an eye towards making you some money. tweeting every potential stock idea triggered by either gentleman. ♪ how can you try to make money from the debate? let me parse it for you. show you how it's done. going over the actual statements by each candidate translating them into cramerican. let me tell you, there were tons of cramericans on twitter. if you tweeted me about the debate, keep an eye on the twicker running below. you may see your tweet. romney went right into a call for north american energy self-sufficiently, singling out coal as an endangered species under obama. listen. >> i like coal. i want to make sure we can continue to burn clean coal. people in the coal industry feel like it's getting crushed by your policies. >> lots of bozos went in and bought the coal stocks. all the coal stocks on. this wrong take away, people! coal's hostage to chinese deman

romney was telling all these lies, why on earth was barack obama not correcting them during the debate in front of over 60 million americans? >> and that's what i would ask, i would love to honestly hear newt gingrich's response to this, because as he said in his previous debates, when he backed down a bit, you just cannot debate somebody who is dishonest. you just can't. this is again, quoting newt gingrich. the people say i'm a good debater. i can't debate somebody who won't tell the truth. >> what i'm asking you, why did the president not correct any of these apparent lies? it's the biggest audience of the year. it's a huge debate. it's potentially a game changing moment in the election. you say mitt romney lied 25 times. barack obama didn't point that out to the american public once. >> yeah. i think he should have corrected some of them. i'm not here as a surrogate for the obama team, but i am here telling you that you have to decide when you are in a debate how much of your real estate you are going to spend in counteracting the lies of your opponent and how much you want to put

for the obama team, but i am here telling you that you have to decide when you are in a debate how much of your real estate you are going to spend in counteracting the lies of your opponent and how much you want to put forth your plan. the president chose to put forth his plan last night and that's what spent his time on. but certainly there were unanswered lies. >> newt gingrich, you've heard the allegations. apparently barack obama is facing the same problem you faced, is that mitt romney was just telling loads of lies and you can't do anything about it. >> first of all, it's a great honor to have governor granholm quote me and maybe one of the few times she ever does. but it was a very nice thing for her to do. i think what was intriguing, she actually raised a point that i was talking with my friends about today. i get the sense that obama never watched the debates that romney and i had, particularly in florida. even though both my wife and i have said publicly over the last couple weeks if romney arrives as tough, as aggressive with the clarity and the assertiveness he used in florida, we

. this is that i mean will you pinheaded college professors. you can't tell me a guy as smart as barack obama didn't remember the biggest gaffe that his opponent had. come on. that takes 32 seconds to figure that out gee, i should bring this up. why didn't he do it? >> every incumbent president has a bad first debate. >> bill: it's like ford saying that the soviet union isn't dominating eastern europe? brain freeze? >> even ronald reagan had a terrible first debate in 1984. i think it's inexplicable. it's inexcusable. >> bill: maybe it's brain freeze. that happens sometimes. >> rick perry. >> bill: that's right. governor perry couldn't remember what agencies he wanted to close down but he knew he wanted to close them. when we come right back, megyn kelly with behind the scenes stuff after the debate last night. kelly is next. >> bill: thanks for staying with us, i'm bill o'reilly. in the kelly file segment tonight, kelly was out in denver with bret baier coverage the debate. ratings say about 58 million people tuned into all concerns. however, fox news may have won the ratings race hoping those pi

. also mr. obama did not look to the future. he did not tell americans how he is going to improve the economy. while governor romney said flat out that he wants to put more american dollars into the marketplace by cutting taxes. even if you disagree with that at least it's a strategy. mr. obama no strategy other than staying the course which is a disaster. that's why mitt romney won. reaction to to the debate was fascinating. our pal al gore blamed the president's weak performance on the altitude in denver. >> i'm going to say something controversial here. obama arrived in denver at 2:00 p.m. today. just a few hours before the debate started. romney did his debate prep in denver. when you go to 5,000 feet. >> exactly. >> and you only have a few hours to adjust. >> that's interesting. >> i don't know. >> bill: was mr. gore high when he said that. some obama supporters simply declared victory. >> i think the president won on poise, won on grace. he won on substance. mitt romney came to play hard ball. it showed mitt romney was on the att offensive. at the same time he didn't really

had about 14 of 15. and the obama folks were there, axelrod and cover, messina. they were not telling a good story. they were saying that this doesn't -- this is not definitive. basically it's theatrics. some of this and talking points you heard today. the question is, what it means long-term. clearly the president has set the bar, the expectation is pretty low for debate. lou: and one could be forgiven for thinking that it was, perhaps, i wrote a dope strategy. over a longer time than most people would have expected. but given that, the way in which the left has responded your, i mean, they have been vicious to their own, their leader. this is supposed to be the great one. and he is being treated today, i think by the left in many cases far worse than he has been treated by anyone on the right. >> you're right. ms in b.c., it was quite something to watch some of that coverage. and today congressman rangel said that the president just looked bored, like he did not want to be present. you have people out there saying that. it's obviously not helpful to the campaign. the president tried

you become president you're going to do exactly what we tell you to do. that's the problem. now let's figure out what went wrong with president obama's debate. for that let's bring in an epic political correspondent. [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> cenk: now michael there was a lot of quotes in the "new york times" to president obama and some of them make sense and some of them don't. let me give you a-30 and run it by you. hours before the debate visors said they were worried during his preparation because he was frequently interrupted by his presidential duties, and they indicated they were nervous he was under prepared. now here they're basically saying he's president. he had to be rushed to do presidenting--are you buying that. >> since aback lincoln presidents have been debating and they've been presidents. i don't buy that. if he was interrupted fine. but what people have to realize the president had an off night. whether he was unprepared, whether he was tired whether he just wasn't up to it that night. he had an off night. it is not a disaster for his presidency. it does not undo all o

and decided he was for an individual mandate. >> candidate obama won't tell us what he wants to do on social security and what his ideas are for a grand bargain with the republicans, so i think governor romney on this point, yes, if you take strictly what he said and what he hasn't said it is not cle how itdds up but don't think there any mystery that if he not elected his tax plan would be, would resellable this but there is a way to swear some of the inconsistencies and fill in some of the holes and maybe there wouldn't be as much deficit reduction or maybe not quite -- wouldn't hold harmless people at slightly lower incomes but we don't think this is a huge discrepancy between romney's lack of express ity and the presidents. >> i would say every candidate is inclear about some things and even some inconsistencies, obama did in '08 and he did this time. >> but when you look at what romney has laid out compared to other challengers it is less detailed than what other challengers have laid out and i think that is a legitimate critique for people to make. to repeat i don't think it will driv

and tell you why i have done a good job, i think president obama when he had those opportunities, either punted and didn't want to, you know, go into the rough and tumable with the governor, which is surprising, because i wouldn't have expected that from him. >> rose: thank you, ben, thank you, david. >> thank you, charlie. >> rose: great to see you. back in a moment, stay with us. the fundamental principles of democracy rely on an accurate and reliable system of vote counting. despite continued advances in voting technology, zero there are security issues still persist, barbara simons is an expert on electronic voting and on the advisor of the election commission and her book is called broken ballots will your votes counties, welcome. >> thank you very much, it is a pleasure. >> you have been involved in computer science most of your adult left. >> i have a ph.d. >> rose: yes. that qualifies you. how did you get involved in this, though, the technology of voting? >> well, in 2003, a colleague of mine, david dill, a professor at stanford discovered that silicon centrally, santa clara cou

obama and mitt romney. the president went on the attack after what's been perceived as a lackluster debate performance. and the president accused governor romney of not telling americans the truth about what president obama calls romney's $5 trillion tax plan. darren gersh, tonight, looks at what the real impact of the romney tax plan could be on the american economy. >> reporter: here's where the president gets that $5 trillion number he used again today. governor romney's plan to cut tax rates by 20% would add up to about $5 trillion over ten years, assuming no other changes. but governor romney is planning to make other changes by eliminating tax deductions worth about the same amount. but the president is accurate when he says governor romney is making many promises in his tax plan. romney says upper-income people will not get a net tax cut; middle-income people will not see their taxes go up; incentives for savings and investment won't be touched; the estate tax and alternative minimum tax will be eliminated-- all this while cutting tax rates and not changing the amount of mone

. when we come back we'll tell you what president obama did right and talk about which pundits and politicians actually got it right before the debate. >> so i have absolute confidence when we get to thursday morning, we'll be shaking our head it's a brand new race. >> cenk: it sucks that he was right. did president obama take it easy on romney because fox has been charging over the last two days he's an angry black man? >> what is happening in new orleans? what is your dollar? where is your money? (vo) john fugelsang sees what happens. >> you know, blaming this economy on barack obama is kinda like blaming your hangover on the guy making breakfast. i like mitt romney but i'm sorry. they guy has flipped more than a crack house mattress. this campaign has become so toxic, beverly hills housewives are now injecting it into their foreheads. (vo) so current gave him a weekly show. >> i love romney's debate style, but i tell you, if i could be that stiff for 90 minutes, i'd ... (vo) we probably won't regret it. alright let's break it down. mom, pop it. ♪ ♪ two inches apart,

the beginning, and i will tell you why. when you watch when they come in, romney's flag pin lapel was at least 10 times bigger than obama. this is why he is the best one on "the view." sorry "the five,"" the view." he has the giant pin. he will take over the table. >> it is a door opener. i want to talk -- there was a thing that a lot of celebrities were doing. they were going after a yellow icon. >> what things would i cut from spending? first of all i would eliminate all programs by this test if they don't pass it. is the program so critical it is worth bar -- borrowing money to pay for it? obama care is on my list. i apologize, mr. president. i use that term with all respect. >> good. i will get rid of that. i made a stop to pbs. i love big bird. i actually like you too. >> was this a good thing, a bad thing or a thing? >> i after all of the chatter, i thought he said i am going to cut big bird. i am going to cut the subsidee. i like big bird. he said he liked him. i didn't remember that. >> if would be great if he said, no, i will cut big bird like a prison shiv. >> by the way, maybe it is

tell by the response. debate stuff. tom, you said the news here was that there was no news that obama is always like this. i totally agree with. he was not a good debater four years ago. hillary pretty much kicked his ass in every debate they had. >> look at the mccain debate. he is not so special. >> but people forget because he can give a really good speech, so they somehow think it is the same thing. they are two completely different skills. i don't like the way you were looking at me when i was talking that time. >> i have a theory, andy. >> yes, sir. jay president obama -- >> president obama fell into a cool hole. he fell into a cool hole. you know when you are really, really cool and you fall into a cool home? you can't get out? >> this is what annoys me. people say he was too profesorial? no he wasn't. that is a compliment described as a knock. oh he is too smart. he needs to dumb himself down. he is too smart. no good professor would act like he acted in that debate last night. you would walk out of his class. >> what about russell johnson. >> russell t johnson? >> the profess

tell you. first of all, i think twitter and the whole blogosphere thing made that the first presidential debate scored minute by minute and it drove the consensus that obama was crushed. obama was devastated. you know what? this is such -- >> it wasn't -- >> you could see it in the spin room in denver. >> stop it. within seconds after the debate, it was around the networks. >> you know what? they were crying. >> let me tell you something. >> they were having melt downs. >> let me tell you two quick things. one is everybody in there was twittering and -- >> now you're hanging out with bob twittering. >> no, no. tweet, whatever. the second thing to say is it wasn't so much the right, and there were people on the romney side trying to push it. it was the left. it was the left that went crazy on obama! they wanted a grudge match, a cage match. they wanted -- >> that's why even the obama campaign thinks they lost. >> yeah, that's the problem. >> when they come out tend with the spinners, it was all romney people. >> who knew that preparation with joy bearrest would have been a ba

since president obama took fi. we'll tell you why that number matters and why it might not matter that much. plus, the fight over the middle class. mitt romney makes a sudden appeal, but is it going to work? and new questions about the security in libya after terrorist attacks there killed four americans. tonight, the state department rejected a security request. let's go "outfront." "outfront" tonight, the war over work. a new jobless number and renewed claims from both presidential candidates about what it means. first, president obama saying it is a very, very good sign. >> this morning, we found out that the unemployment rate has fallen to its lowest level since i took office. >> the old rate, 8.1%. the new number, 7.8%. that's the best since barack obama took office and it's certainly positive news for his re-election hopes because no president has been re-elected with an unemployment rate above 8% since roosevelt in the 1830s. erin herself has made this point many times. >> the unemployment rate may be high, but the the absolute number is not what matters when it comes to ge

report." it's great to see you. i don't feel like defending obama, i don't feel like defending the labor secretary but i got to tell you, i worked in the white house under reagan, omb, you can't touch those numbers, jack, you can't touch those numbers before they're published. >> larry, look, this election is too important to have it hinge on one number. we got this number of 7.8 today, below where the president came in and we have assumptions. what i wanted to see and there's a real debate about this number. larry, the private sector household number, which is done by calling 50,000 people in the hundred plus million population for workers came in with a number of 873,000 people. that is the highest number since 1983, booming reagan years when you were there. >> i understand. i don't feel like defending bureaucrats left and right, it's not my favorite thing. but these guys, as the labor secretary said, they use surveys and models, it's only a 50 or 60,000 sample but that's nothing new. that's the way it's been for as long as the data is kept. you got 600,000 part-time workers. that was

they're trying to tell about president obama? i get that they don't like him but what is the strategy here? on the republican side, a reason that the money has slowed down a little bit is that people are disappointed with the overall big picture, strateg. >> i'm sure you don't mean to imply that there's more coordination -- >> i'm trying to imply there's a lot more common sense we've been advertising on our side than they have been doing on their side. >> when i just made that comment to bill, obviously, in a lighthearted way because super pacs, by law, are not allowed to coordinate with the campaigns. >>> the visit comes three weeks after the attack. the day after a newspaper reporter found sensitive documents laying around the site, one talking about a need for increased security days before the attack. that's "out front" next. >>> once mitt romney and paul ryan take the stage we'll go there live. ♪ [ man ] excuse me miss. [ gasps ] this fiber one 90 calorie brownie has all the moist, chewy, deliciousness you desire. mmmm. thanks. [ man ]t 90 calories, the brownie of your dreams i

doesn't do that. obama pretty much tells like it is. did he do a good job in the debate? >> no. >> governor i want to ask you about vice president biden yesterday on the stump, some comments that people are calling a gaffe by biden where he said obama and biden want to raise taxes by a trillion dollars. guess what, yes we do. is that the right kind of message? >> wait a minute. excuse me but the rest of that you haven't in full context. yes we'll raise taxes on the wealthy. they have been saying that for a year. specifically he said we're not is going raise taxes on the middle class. that's what he said. this is not a gaffe. this is a media hand wringing. when i was campaigning lots of people accused me of gaffes all the time. a gaffe is what people say in washington when you tell the truth and they think you shouldn't have. yeah, the democrats are going raise taxes on wealthy people so we can help balance the budget. that's a pretty reasonable thing. >> governor dean, do you think this debate has consequences for this campaign? >> i debater, he's well prepared, he's obviously

to lose his voice. however, vice president joe biden isn't afraid to tell a hard truth. >> obama and biden want to raise tacks by $8 trillion. guess what? yes, we do in one regard. we want to let that trillion dollar tax cut expire so the middle class doesn't have to bear the burden of all that money going to the super wealthy. >> karen finney is an msnbc political analyst and former dnc communications director and hogan giddily is the former communications director for the rick santorum campaign. welcome to both of you. kar karen, to quote jack nicholson in "a few good men" romney and ryan, they just can't handle the truth can they? >> they can't. the level of intellectual dishonesty, i use the wort intellectual half joking, they took the vice president's comments and truncated them without the most important part, which has been the most important part of what the president has been talking about, what democrats have been talking about, and that is the idea that those at the top should be doing their fair share, and that's something that i guess all of the sudden now romney and ryan, the

with the president for the past two days, i can tell new speaking to his supporters, they have said they wanted to see a more aggressive president obama on wednesday night, that they wanted him to directly engage mitt romney more than he had. i think those are some comments that the president and his team will take into consideration before the next debate. >> nbc's kristin welker, go inside and get dry, kristin. thank you so much. >> thanks. >> stay with us. the day's "top lines" are coming up. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >>> the hannity bombshell that wasn't. romney leaves conservative giddy, and now tickle me elmo. here are today's "top lines." >> first presidential debate. >> the up ender in denver. >> he's a good debater. >> this is mitt's first time. >> who going to have the b

? >> well, i think tell have the same deflatingesque as the jobs report after the democratic convention last time did. last month, it came out the day after obama's speech. i think it took some wind out of his sails. but i think there were very specific things things that romy accomplished that is important to focus on. number 1, obama agreed there was no difference between them on social security. and obama agreed that neither of their medicare plans would hurt existing elderly or anyone about to retire. they disagreed on the $716 million that obama caught current retiree, but the medi-scare and the social security scare tactic can't be used because obama stipulated that that won't be a problem. i think by failing to raise the 45%, the cayman islands and the tax return and the bain capital, obama was basically conceding that those are not legitimate shots. how can you spend $200 million advertising to push these facts and then when you confront the guy, you don't mention them? >> greta: you see -- i actually thought that that was smart because he looks like he is above this. that he is more

remember this number. thirty-eight. t >> president obama is trying to rebound after the debate with romney. we will tell you what happened and what he is doing the day after we return. ñgñg >> now 5:30 p.m. we are talking with kron 4 as political and less about how this debate is changing the race for the white house. there is a whole new dynamic. mitt romney did great at the debate and president obama is trying to rebound. >> this is one of mitt romney son after the debate. how did dead do yesterday?. >> the president had a few good lines. >> it has been months since you the ride on this tax plan. now five months before the election you are stating never mind. >> president obama came out strong and responded. >> i have been in business for 25 years and i have no idea what you are talking about. >> critics say that obama seemed to meet and that he took too many punches. today the president was trying to rebound and he accused romney. the fellow less i say that he had no clue about that. >> and the crowd and the canada its. i know this will be a close battle and i need to when colorado. i

own tax plan telling president obama and the american people he would not support a plan that cut taxes on the wealthy and raise taxes on the middle class -- that is mathematically impossible. as i read the actual -- like thing romney said, he basically just said huh-uh because i say so. >> wow. >> stephanie: he said so there's no economist that says the plan adds $5 trillion if i say it won't. [ applause ] >> stephanie: all right. wow. okay. so and as i was always saying i thought axelrod said it right. he said the strategy was effective in the short-term vulnerable in the long term. romney gave a good performance, the problem is none of it was rooted in fact. he told the debate medicare is -- mr. etch-a-sketch said that was wrong. the romney camp had to send someone in the spin room right after the debate to say, well he can't really do that. as for taxed obama appeared to be caught off guard by the statement that his plan wouldn't increase taxes. much of romney's performance was rooted in deception from his very first answer when he tried to disown his tax

. romney also attacked the president on the obama care issue. >> romney: cut $716 million from medicare to pay for it. i want to put the money back in medicare for our seniors. it puts in place an unelected board that's going to tell people ultimately what kind of treatments they can have. pre-existing conditions are covered unmy plan. >> eliot: the obama ad took those claims on as well. >> each one has been checked and checked again. what president obama has proposed are not cuts cuts to medicare. the verdict is the language mitt romney uses, the verdict is false. >> romney: pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. >> i have to rate that mostly fiction. >> eliot: while the obama campaign fought back today, the president seemed tired and disconnected and glad it was all over last night. >> obama: i want to thank governor romney because i think it was a terrific debate. and i very much appreciate it. >> eliot: minutes later liberal commentators began screaming about the attack lines the president coul

't think it tells us much that many people didn't already think about president obama. he has become much more sophisticated in these arguments. but i think at the end of the day, he is making a similar argument today, high is, effect in effect, pretty open about the class warfare argument. it is not as explicit, but the philosophy is the same. this doesn't surprise me to see this. >> the national attitudes are set on president obottom a. people have seen him come into their living room, ever day for four years. they have a sense of who he is as a person. so as these videos come out, it is going to be hard for them to really shake things up with the independent and swing voters, which are who matters in november. >> it is not only rich and poor, it is black and white as well. he makes specific racial arguems. in ept -- 2002, the time of enron, everybody's talking about enron. he talks about enron, using tax accountants and tax loopholes to make money and -- and... and mistreat employees. he said, it's not the equivalent of dogs and fire hoses, but i am not saying what enron executives did

from 35% to 25%. >> clearly at that stage mr. obama should have turned to him and said you are not telling the american people the truth. just as he did today in denver when he said he wasn't telling the truth. he should have looked him in the eye and said mitt romney, you are not telling the american people the truth. and then proceed to walk through as clinton would have done the mathematics to prove it. i don't think romney would have been smart enough to figure out how to get out of that hit, but obama ignored that opportunity and i think that's a mistake. joan, you're correct. he will everywhere he goes, he will save the day and correct what he didn't do last night, but 58 million people will not be able to be contacted in time for him to make that correction. >> well, joan, last night romney made another surprising state on his health care plan this time. let's take a look at the latest variation on a theme which is i'm not as bad as i am. let's watch it. >> let's get the governor explain what you would do it obamacare is repealed. how would you replace it? >> actuall

when it comes to president obama? >> they haven't changed one bit. they know the truth and can tell a liar when they see one. >> now, what about president obama saying he wants to lower the corporate tax rate on manufacturing to 25%? what does that mean for workers? >> well, whatever it does, ed, we can help create more jobs in this country. what i like what he said about basically, we're going to reward people that put jobs here in america and we're going to make sure the tax is an incentive for people who send american jobs overseas. something that mitt romney has done. he did that at bain and sent jobs overseas. >> what was your response when romney was talking about he's been in business for 25 years, he didn't know anything about incentives for shipping jobs overseas? what was your reaction to that? >> well, again, it's this lie after lie. it's hard to debate somebody when he takes one position on his website, one position during the campaign and gets on television and completely changes it. he knows there's all kinds of incentives to have people move offshore. that's what's wr

your gut tell you? do the september job numbers erase president obama's performance at the debate in your opinion? take a look what the "news nation" said about yesterday's gut check. does wednesday night's debate reset mitt romney's campaign. 11% said yes, 89% said no. i'm sorry for the laughter, but someone made an abrupt move behind me and it scared me. i don't know what's going on. it's friday for the "news nation." thank you for joining us all week long. we're uploads new pictures from behind the scenes. go to our tumblr page and ush watch "news nation" every day at 2:00 weekdays. "the cycle" is up next. you won't just find us online, you'll also find us in person, with dedicated support teams at over 500 branches nationwide. so when you call or visit, you can ask for a name you know. because personal service starts with a real person. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our support teams are nearby, ready to help. it's no wonder so many investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. >>> i'm toure. the unemployment rate is below 8%. we haven'

, three weeks later he tells us this is not sincere. this is a kcalculated move. >> now he says it's wrong, as he shifted for example, in some respects back and forth on health care saying he would repeal obama care. a couple of days before the debate, embracing he was the godfather of obama care. the larger issue is, with mitt romney coming out and saying, i was wrong, does that help him reset his campaign? >> no. >> you say -- >> i say no because he's looking more and more like a shape shifter, which is precisely the stereotype that people have somehow in their minds held about him, including people on the right. you don't know who the real mitt romney is. by doing this it's like he's inflicting 1,000 cuts on himself. this constant movement and bobs and weaving doesn't help him recover when it comes to likability and trustability. >> anne let met get you in. in virginia governor romney was with congressman ryan there. they had the fireworks, and it actually reminlded me of when the republicans would criticize the democrats for having those pillars remember at the last democratic national

americans have a good job and that to be our aspiration. politically, i think these numbers tell president obama. people are hardened into their corners. this is a great but treking democracy. sometimes think not to be to ocute aboo cute about this. i would like to come back as a woman swing voter in iowa. we're seeing that targeting of the 2%, 3%. i think these numbers will play a role. the hardening of this election is in place. host: the focus of the cover on your magazine and that is the next president possibility to make his selection for the supreme court. i'm wondering what your view is of the current makeup of the court and which direction it will go as the new term opens this week in light of the vote on health care. guest: your viewers can see that cover. often the court is viewed through the prism through hot- button social issues like abortion, guns, criminal defense issues. this is very much about the election where we have four supreme court justices over the age of 70. we have a court which has in many ways savored -- favored the corporations, the very rich over ordinary peo

accident there's also conversations about an obama flip-flop as well. tell me about that. >> this is kind of a flip-flop, i would say, on enthusiasm or tone. i think whether we were watching president obama on wednesday, it was very much a passive president obama. certainly wasn't what i was expecting, having been object the campaign trail with president obama. he campaigned yesterday in denver in wisconsin and really fired up and really calling mitt romney on what he saw smas of his inconsistencies during the debate. the problem is 67 million-plus people watched that debate. that was really the place where he needed to call mitt romney out. i guarantee you not that many people saw his comments from yesterday. even close to the dab. >> nowhere near that amount. brianna keilar. let me ask you a quick question about the jobs numbers. we are expecting those at 8:30. it might be the most watched job numbers before the election, i would guess. >> that's right. we are watching them and remember they also come out that friday before the election. so we will be watching that as well. this is numb

debate is over. now it's time for the great debate over the latest jobs report. how romney and obama are spinning the number. >> fans of 30 rock. what alec baldwin tweeted. barnhill: you hear a lot of talk about question seven... so let me tell you what i know: if question seven passes, my company's going to... bring table games, like blackjack and poker... right here to baltimore. a twenty-five million dollar investment... that'll create five hundred new jobs. all right here. today, marylanders are spending $500 million gaming... in other states. let's keep it here. i'm chad barnhill, and we're ready to build right here. we're ready, and it's real. and all that has to happen... is question seven. >>> take you down into enemy territory in dallas, texas, where we have been watching the skies. clouding up a little bit, changing weather in the lone star state for the big game. it looks like winds will be shifting around. we'll see temperatures dropping from the 70s to the 60s. here is the first pitch forecast. 72 degrees. mostly cloudy skies, winds five to 15. that will allow temps to d

is on capitol hill with the veryliest. hi, danielle. >> hi, good evening. for president obama, this is proof that his policies are working. for mitt romney the unemployment rate at 7.8% doesn't tell the whole story. at a rally a in virginia a a smiling president obama took full advantage of september's job's report. >> more people entered the worc

, the unemployment rate now at 7.8% doesn't tell the whole story. at a rally a in virginia, a smiling president obama took full advantage of september's jobs report. >> more americans entered the work force, more people are getting jobs. >> reporter: the unemployment rate fell to 7.8%. marking the first time it's been below 8% during his presidency. >> today's excuse is not an excuse to talk down the economy to score a few political point. >> reporter: political points is exactly what mitt romney was going for while talking to voters in virginia. >> this president calls his policies going forward. i call his policies forewarned. >> reporter: romney said the unemployment rate fell because people gave up. >> when i'm president of the united states, that, that unemployment rate is going to come down, not because people are giving up and dropping out of the workforce, but because we're creating more jobs. >> reporter: on social media, some conservatives accuse the obama administration of doctoring the jobs numbers. former general electric ceo jack welch wrote "unbelievable job numbers. the chicago guys w

or seven days before we get polled and specific questions about, for example, president obama's handling of the economy or the job situations where we can compare the numbers to previous numbers to see if he got a boost. >> your numbers is an average, correct, not an actual poll. tell us how it works. >>guest: we take all of the polls that are out, publicly available polls that are out at any given point if time and we average them together. at presidential level and the national level, we get a group of polls coming out all time, some of them conflicting. we have a poll one day that says, for example, obama is up two in ohio. we will get a poll the next day that says he is up nine. which is it? that is where the average comes in. they have been useful and effective tool for gaming where the race stands. >> we saw a full screen of your real clear average poll between the two nationally you have president obama up by about a little over 2 percent; that right? 3.2 percent difference. that is from 9-25 to 10-4. do you expect that to tighten or flip giving the post debate surge for romney? >

in the debate. president obama told a denver awed -- audience romney misrepresented himself. >> there did the president tell the truth? truth is that that is not what is going to make the difference. >> there president accused mitt romney of proposing tax cuts to the rich that will hurt the middle class. >> average family will pay about $2,000 more. >> numbers are shaky. $5 trillion is the proposed tax cut and the president's number assumes that there will be no change from increased economic growth. and when it came to the health care debate there was a similar aassumption. >> i don't understand how you can cut medicare for current recipients. >> fact check? $716 billion is a 10 year projection. the plan save that's much money limiting payments to insurance companies and drug companies and hospitals. they've agreed to reductions. last night both men were relying on their own aassumptions and facts some times took a beating. >> i think people are judging the performance and who seemed more competent and relaxed. >> saying nobody is junling the debate on who had the most factual arguments.

in last night's initial presidential debate. overnight polling gave him the advantage. president obama and fellow democrats charged romney did not tell the truth during the face-off. and turkish artillery shelled targets in syria for a second day, after a syrian mortar round killed five turks on weesday. the newshour had extensive debate coverage on air and online, starting with an all-day live stream. hari sreenivasan explains. and we closed out the morning hours with a live google plus hangout. political editor christina bellantoni chatted with two undecided voters about the debate's impact on their choice in november. >> the way i feel after watching this debate, i don't know how much good it's going to do for me to watch, to be honest. the idea of not voting seems terrible but when i'm picking between the less of two evils, like i said, i don't know how much good i'm doing, either. >> i'm against the political apathy that i see in a lot of kind of -- my peers and, you know, this is a big chance to be able to vot and feel like your vote decides something and, you know, that people -

of this. i think valerie jarrett sat next to mrs. obama during the debate tells the president every day, you're the greatest orator in the history of language. i think if you hear that long enough you don't think you have to prepare for the debate and have contempt for anyone who would even dare challenge you for your job. bill: larry sabato, the university of virginia, right, he said last night that it is clear he blew off all of hess practice sessions. >> right. bill: and he said there is evidence to prove that. but it doesn't just stop with folks like al gore. ed schultz was on "the today show.". savannah guthrie asked him specifically what was going on. here he what he said. so many lies coming across the stage and so many inaccuracies, it was hard for the president to comprehend it and decide which one he wanted to attack first. i really believe that because the president's personality is bookish, likes to explain things. will not put something in two or three or four like thing and say well, i'm done with it guthrie says, it sound like you're making excuses. he went on to say romn

're overdue. thanks to amman, the man with all the answers. >>> after the break, president obama gets his game face back following wednesday's debate telling voters in denver yesterday about the real mitt romney. >> the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year, promising $5 trillion in tax cuts to favor the wealthy, the fellow on stage last night said, he didn't know anything about that. the real mitt romney said we don't need any more teachers in our classrooms, but -- don't boo. vote. >> but has the obama campaign voted on how to portray the republican nominee? we will return to the paradox of the mittens when obama's super pac chief bill burton joins the package, next on "now." ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing the all-new completely re-imagined 2013 chevrolet malibu. sleek new styling... sophisticated dual cockpit design, and sport sculpted seats. available chevrolet mylink infotainment system. the all-new 2013 chevrolet malibu. ♪ refined comfort to get you in a malibu state of mind no matter what state you live in. ♪ we don't let frequent heartburn come

all this stuff. but he did not tell us how. it was extremely frustrated. >> obama did not mention anything about china. he skirted the questions. he was not direct. it was trying to protect mitt. mitt and confident. when he was attacked on, you do not have details for your plan, this that and the other, i believe he said it every other time -- number one, i did this. number two, we do that. so i think we are going to have a very good debate sessions coming up in the near future. i hope mitt pulls through. >> i thought both candidates did a good job. i was a little more impressed with the president and because of that, i am getting off the fence and i'm going with the president. i think the moderator could have exercised more control. he kind of let romney cut in and takeover more than he should have. i found obama to be more believable. or.as ok with the moderat he allowed us to see the true personalities of the candidates. >> the debate was not anything very special. i felt that romney was being a bit ridiculous, constantly interrupting obama. overall, i am not very much of a gre

presume we're going to see more of the campaigning obama than we saw in that debate, and at the same time he has got to tell a story here that sticks to numbers that are real. i think that if one party and one candidate can really stick to the real tale of where we are economically and how we move forward in this economy that is inhibited by what's happened in the great recession, that honesty might carry the campaign, but i don't think that pie in the sky is going to do it like we saw especially out of romney the other night. >> i agree with that, and i think it would actually play to the president's core message about investment. the reason that we are where we are economically is a competitiveness issue. jobs have gone abroad. this is not a three-year process a ten-year process, it's a 30-year process. the labor share of the pie has been shrinking since the 1970s. so i think that that's good for the president because it plays to his message. we've got to invest in education in infrastructure. countries like china spent four times as much on infrastructure as a percentage of their econo

: yes. yes. kay not tell you president obama has a great -- he is just a great man. and as far as sununu, if he wasn't saying what he says here in this country, he would be in jail someplace or beheaded. thank god for the united states. >> jamal: absolutely. we're lucky we don't have to have that kind of result especially those of us who talk for a living on the radio. thank you for being here. steve in perriesville indiana. >> caller: yeah, hey. sununu is calling president obama lazy the whole house and senate republican party has been lazy ever since they have been in office. they have done nothing and they are calling this man lazy and un-american. they are the ones that are un-american. >> jamal: yeah, to talk about people are un-american, that takes us back to an ugly time in history. you had -- paul robeson who is a great artist who had political beliefs that were unpopular at the time who was treated so badly. don't you think it's time for us to get past the un-american talk? >> caller: oh, yeah. barack obama is one of the best presidents we have ever h

aspiration. politically, i think these numbers tell president obama. people are hardened into their corners. we are essentially looking at eight to nine swing states. i sometimes think not to be too cute about this. i would like to come back as a woman swing voter in iowa. --ohio. we're seeing that targeting of the 2%, 3%. i think these numbers will play a role. how big? it's hard to know. the hardening of this election is in place. host: the focus of the cover on your magazine and that is the next president possibility to make his selection for the supreme court. i'm wondering what your view is of the current makeup of the court and which direction it will go as the new term opens this week in light of the vote on health care. guest: your viewers can see that cover. it is pretty clearly stated. often the court is viewed through the prism through hot- button social issues like abortion, guns, criminal defense issues. this is very much about the election where we have four supreme court justices over the age of 70. the next president will have the opportunity to shape this court for a genera

number is so important to jobs, to various campaigns, isn't it smart to have obama donors in as economists in the department of labor statistics? >> and let me tell you, there's no law against giving money. these are not major-- you're making it out like somehow george soros is running the department. ridiculous, eric. >> and you attacked me on something about the-- >> the confidence has been going up for months, this is not something that's based on-- >> i think two statistics that do matter in here to people. whether or not they would pay attention to them. one is the participation rate. >> yes. >> you have that few people, the lowest it's been since 1962. >> let's look at why that is. because more people close to retirement age are deciding that they-- >> that's been debunked several times. >> they're unemployed and-- >> no, no, no, they're taking early retirement and deciding you know what? >> and the line that bob beckel tried to use and it actually does not pan out and the second one is that take home pay is not keeping up with inflation. and inflation is higher so t

that happens. >> jennifer: okay. so mr. langone and his ilk there afraid of president obama. are there others like him that we should be concerned about investing in schemes like this? >> i want to tell you that billionaire langone is the guy that created the list of black voters to wipe out that was given to katherine harris. he's the guy that did it. he's the guy that did it. he needed a new president. why? facing insider trading charges. >> jennifer: greg, we've gotta either have you back or make sure our viewers read your book because you've got a lot packed in there. greg pal ast author of billionaires and ballot bandits. how to steal the election in nine easy steps. more to come in "the war room" right after this. >> romney: i'm sorry jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs and other things. i like big bird. i actually like you too. >> jennifer: that, ladies and gentlemen leads to our sixth and final mitt lie of the night so romney wants us to believe that cutting funds to pbs is going to fix the deficit

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